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User Dialysis Meter - Canada
My name is Gil Grenier and I am the
Technical Manager for the Nephrology Program at The Ottawa Hospital
in Ottawa. We look after seven (7) different hospitals in our region
plus 30 home patients with a total of 95,000 hemodialysis treatments
per year. We have been using the IBP meters for as long as they have
been introduced in Canada, i.e. early 2000s if my memory serves me
right. All 20 of my Dialysis Technicians uses them on a daily basis
and we have had no problem at all with them. In addition the turn
around time for calibration from the company is very short.
I would never hesitate recommending this meter to everyone.
Cheers,
Gil Grenier
Technical Manager, Nephrology Program
The Ottawa Hospital
and
Chair, C.S.A. Technical Committee in Kidney Dialysis
gigrenier@ottawahospital.on.ca
Source of this text:
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User Dialysis Meter - USA
Presently, I have 7 IBP HDM97BN meters. I originally purchased 4 in
June of 2008 to replace Mesa pHoenix meters for the floor staff to
use during hemodialysis machine pre-treatment checks. The nursing
floor and technical staff were very impressed with the ease of use
of these meters; so another 3 were purchased in January of 2009 for
the portable bedside hemo machines.
I have had only two problems with these meters, which had been
rectified by IBP very quickly. Being these meters are used for
approximately 20,000 treatments a year, I find it to be more than an
acceptable failure rate per/usage. As compared to the Mesa pHoenix
historically at about one a month.
Calibration drift and calibration requirements have been minimal, as
compared to the Mesa pHoenix meter. I felt as if we were using the
dialysis machine to QA the pHoenix meter.
The 97BN has substantially cut down on nursing staff calibration and
maintenance requirements, as well as documentation compliance.
As far as the company being in Germany, it hasn't posed any
difficulty. Turn around time has has been within two weeks.
Though the 90DX has been my “gold standard” and reliable for me over
the past 15 years, I am replacing my 90DX's with HDM99XP's, instead
of the 90XL.
I recommend IBP to anyone.
John R. Mahalko
Clinical Engineering Supervisor
Hemodialysis/CAPD
Kaleida Health
Buffalo, NY
jmahalko@kaleidahealth.org
Source of this text:
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User Dialysis Meter - USA
I have serviced dialysis equipment for at least 16 years. I find that
the HDM99 meter is the single most useful tool I have ever used in
trouble shooting, repairing and calibrating dialysis equipment. I
especially appreciate the fact that features offered on the HDM99
provide such precise output that I rely on my meter as an absolute
"final word" in resolving calibration discrepancies. The HDM99 has
proven to be an invaluable tool in verification of systems and
algorithms used in the diafiltration machine we have developed. The PC
interface makes data acquisition and charting easy.
I do have one minor complaint in the form of a question: why didn't
you provide such a great tool ten years ago?
Ed Spence
Nephros Inc.
eMail: Spence@Nephros.com
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User Dialysis Meter - USA
Please accept our thanks for allowing Renal Care Group, Inc. to
evaluate the IBP HDM97 Dialysis Meter. RCG has long been in search of
a dialysate meter that combines the capabilities of accurately
measuring conductivity, temperature, pressure, and pH with reliability
and durability.
In addition, to the aforementioned criteria, we have been searching
for a dialysate meter that is functionally easy for out Biomedical
Technicians to calibrate and maintain.
We believe the IBP HDM97 meets or exceeds all these criteria. In my 22
years of experience, HDM97's accuracy is unprecedented particularly in
regard to pH measurements. The conductivity cell's accuracy and
durability are unparalleled as well.
The HDM97 has forced us to redefine our thinking in regard to what is
“State of the Art.” Clearly, the HDM97 Meter sets the “Gold” standard
for the dialysis industry. We look forward to using these meters
throughout our system.
Finally, RCG looks forward to evaluating the HDM99-dialysate meter. We
believe the added capabilities of the HDM99 will find significant use
in our research departments thus facilitate RCG's plans to deliver the
best and most optimal plan of care to our thousands of patients.
Mark M. Rolston,
RCG, Corporate Director of Technical Operations
eMail:
mrolston@renalcaregroup.com
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Some selected comments from Canadian technicians available at the
message board at
http://www.dialysistechs.com
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Bill Classen
Registered User
Posts: 33
(9/9/04 8:05 am)
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Re:
Conductivity meters
We use the IBP and they are
fantastic. They have a flow meter a flow through condo temp
probe that can be transformed into a dip probe. It has a built
in volt meter and oscilloscope. They are by far the best meter
I have ever used.
Bill Classen
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MartinDyke2
Registered User
Posts: 3
(9/24/04 8:26 am)
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Re:
Conductivity meters
Hi Rene, I don't know what
kind of machines you have, but when I was working with
Fresenius we found that the Neo 2 meters consistantly read
high, just like the Neo 1's would if you forgot to ground them
(the Neo 1's worked fine if they were grounded).
I used a IBP 99 and I have to agree, it is the best meter that
I have ever used by far. It was stable and accurate and easy
to use.
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MartinDyke2
Registered User
Posts: 10
(10/5/04 12:14 pm)
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Re:
Conductivity meters
Hi Rene, that got me thinking.
I know the condo probes on the Fresenius machines use changes
in frequency, but I never stopped to think what method was
used in meters.
I don't think that you can ground an IBP meter. There is no
provision on them to do that. They are certainly accurate
enough with no grounding. Unfortunately, even if I wanted to I
couldn't try it now. Since I left Fresenius and came to Humber
I have had to make due with a Mesa.
Another thing to consider with the Neo 1's. If they get to
cold they have to be recalibrated. If anyone forgot one in
their cars and it was anywhere near 0 Celsius, it would have
to be recalibrated. I accidentally forgot my IBP in my trunk
last winter when it was about minus 20 (probe was empty and
fairly dry). I let it warm up for a couple of hours when I got
to the office then checked it. It was bang on and didn't seem
to have suffered ill effects.
Good luck in your search.
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MartinDyke2
Registered User
Posts: 14
(10/20/04 7:41 am)
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Re:
Conductivity meters
Hi Troy, you can contact
Robert Buffett at Fresenius Canada.
His email is robert.buffett@fmc-na.com or you can phone him at
1 888 709 4411 ext 252.
The IBP meters are great, hope you can manage to get one.
Martin
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IBP distributor - United Kingdom
First rate engineering has developed a pair of reference meters with
class-leading specifications, unrivalled versatility and 100%
reliability over the last two years. With few exceptions, customer
evaluation of the HDM meter has resulted in immediate purchase. The
ability to measure the conductivity of either RO water or dialysate;
use of the flow meter to set RO output flow; and pressure readings
displayed in various units are major attractions of the meters.
The calibration service is both quick and efficient, minimising
down-time for our customers.
Peter Walton
LINC Medical Systems Ltd
eMail:
peterwalton@linc-medical.co.uk
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Press report
Reproduced with kind permission of
Artery, the magazine
of the Association of Renal Technicians, U.K. - March 2001
Probably the most valuable piece of
equipment in the dialysis technicians armoury of tools is the
conductivity / temperature monitor. Technicians are expected to
calibrate dialysis machines accurately and quickly, possibly at some
distance from base. Laboratory results are not always reliable so
reliance falls heavily on the conductivity / temperature monitor.
I have been asked to convey to you my experience with the HDM99
Dialysis measuring system. At the Lister we have been using one
instrument for 18 months and now have a second.
The system consists of a Display unit, conductivity/temperature/pressure
probe, pH probe, flow sensor, voltmeter, leads and power supply.
Software is supplied which enables PC/notebook display and data
logging via the monitors RS232 port. The whole system is housed in an
aluminium carrying case with enough space for the tube, 'Y' pieces,
connectors, adapters and syringes that become part of a kit.
The LCD display is easily readable and well organised with a digital,
bargraph and graphical representation for each individual parameter.
Up to 4 parameters can be displayed together in digital and bargraph
format. The graphical display is a rough guide on the monitor but very
good on a notebook. The parameters included are Conductivity,
temperature, pressure, pH, flow, voltage - plot and oscilloscope,
frequency
Conductivity ranges between 0 µS/cm to 20 mS/cm enabling use on RO
water to dialyser fluid. The probe can be used in line or dip.
Temperature ranges cover dialyse and hot rinse with no correction
factor required for high temperatures. Parameter ranges and graph time
bases can be individually set.
The system has vast capability and it
takes some time to become conversant with all the facilities, however
one facility that has enhanced routine maintenance is the recording of
conductivity and temperature. During maintenance bicarbonate and acid
concentrate mixing levels are checked and set. The HDM99 is set up to
display on a laptop, the graphical display enabling rapid and accurate
determination of correct settings. The session is recorded, displaying
original levels, adjustments, and final levels. The complete recording
is then saved to a file in the machine records along with the
electrical safety test.
There is facility to interface with a dialysis machine directly via
RS232 ports using a driver available from IBP. I have not had the time
to investigate this facility yet.
Annual calibration involves returning the instrument to IBP, the turn
round being within 2 weeks. A full comprehensive calibration
certificate is issued guaranteeing temperature, pressure and voltage
for one year and for conductivity and pH with monthly verification
against standards.
The monthly verification with the standards is quick and easy.
The graphical display and logging facility is particularly useful.
Accuracy, confirmed by the monthly checks, appears to be good. The
wealth of measuring parameters takes some time to become fully
conversant with. The voltage plot, counter and oscilloscope, although
useful for some measurements do not replace standalone instruments. A
clamp to secure the monitor to the dialysis machine would be an
improvement.
Overall I am very pleased with the monitor.
Richard Humber
Lister Renal Unit |
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